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PostSubject: Turbo Specs   Turbo Specs EmptySun Aug 05, 2007 10:07 am

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Compressor Turbine comp avg Trim Inducer/ Minor Dia. Exducer/ Exducer/ Inducer/ Trim Major Dia. Minor Dia. Major Dia.

TD04-09B 50 1.365 1.93 1.55 1.86 1.6475
TD04-13G 62 1.58 2 1.625 1.812 1.79
T3 35 1.396 2.367 1.8815
TB02 22 1.56 1.989 1.517 1.833 1.9015
TD04H-15C 1.638 2.165 1.743 2.028 1.9015
TD04-15G 55 1.625 2.187 1.625 1.812 1.906
TD04H-15G 55 1.625 2.187 1.74 2.047 1.906
Mk 4 CT-12 1.535 2.283 1.732 2.047 1.909
T3 40 1.484 2.367 1.9255 T3 45 1.595 2.367 1.981
TD05H-14B 55 1.695 2.285 1.93 2.2 1.99
TD05-16G 1.814 2.223 1.911 2.184 2.0185
T3 50 1.674 2.367 2.0205
TD05H-14G 62 1.8 2.285 1.93 2.2 2.0425
TD04-17G 54 1.744 2.382 1.625 1.812 2.063
T3 55 1.76 2.367 2.0635
TD05H-16G 60 1.83 2.365 1.93 2.2 2.0975
TD04-18T 1.625 1.812 T3 60 1.83 2.367 2.0985
GT2510 63 1.86 2.344 1.626 2.067 62 2.102
GT2530 63 1.86 2.344 1.883 2.098 76 2.102
T3 Super 60 1.9 2.367 2.1335
Mk 3 CT-26 1.811 2.559 2.047 2.677 2.185
TD05H-16G 50 1.892 2.68 1.93 2.2 2.286 T
D05H-18A 50 1.9 2.68 1.93 2.2 2.29
TD05-18G 1.97 2.652 1.911 2.184 2.311
T04B S 1.904 2.75 2.327
TD05H-18G 55 1.992 2.68 1.93 1.93 2.336
GT2835 48 1.923 2.773 2.02 2.204 84 2.348
TD06-20G 2.051 2.652 2.149 2.535 2.3515
TD05H-20G 60 2.07 2.68 1.93 2.2 2.375
GTRS 52 1.997 2.773 1.833 2.098 76 2.385
GT2835 52 1.997 2.773 2.02 2.204 84 2.385
T04B T 5/6 2.032 2.75 2.391
GT35 52 2.016 2.795 2.453 2.677 84 2.4055
T04E 40 1.87 2.95 2.41
GT2835 56 2.071 2.773 2.02 2.204 84 2.422
GT2835R 56 2.071 2.773 2.09 2.204 90 2.422
T04B Super S 1.904 3 2.452
T04B V 2.18 2.75 2.465
T04E 46 2.003 2.95 2.4765
GT2540 46 2.016 2.972 1.833 2.098 76 2.494
GT3037 48 2.059 2.972 2.145 2.34 84 2.5155
T04B H 2.298 2.75 2.524
GT3037 52 2.145 2.972 2.145 2.34 84 2.5585
T04E 54 2.17 2.95 2.56
HKS T04E 57 2.196 2.925 2.266 2.785 62 2.5605
T04E 50 2.122 3 2.561
GT37 52 2.157 2.992 2.614 2.854 84 2.5745
GT35 2.157 2.997 2.453 2.677 84 2.577
T04B Super V 2.18 3 2.59 T04E 57 2.23 2.95 2.59
GT3037 56 2.223 2.972 2.145 2.34 84 2.5975
T04E 60 2.29 2.95 2.62
HKS T04S 60 2.301 2.972 2.523 2.894 76 2.6365
T04B Super H 2.298 3 2.649
T04B 60-1 2.324 3 2.662 T04B 62-1 2.441 3 2.7205
GT3040 50 2.262 3.198 2.145 2.34 84 2.73
GT40 50 2.283 3.228 2.591 3.031 73 2.7555
GT3240 54 2.352 3.198 2.106 2.289 84 2.775
GT37 2.327 3.228 2.614 2.854 84 2.7775
TS04 (T-57) 2.3 3.304 2.802
HKS T04R 63 2.601 3.276 2.523 2.894 76 2.9385
T-61 2.382 3.544 2.963
HKS T04R/GT63 GT63 2.626 3.307 2.547 2.921
GT76 2.998 GT40 54 2.547 3.465 2.547 3.031 84 3.006
T-78 GREDDY 2.598 3.543 2.559 2.913 3.0705
T-88 GREDDY 33D 2.598 3.543 2.846 3.346 3.0705
T-64 2.49 3.67 3.08
T-66 2.58 3.584 3.082
HKS T51 KAI 56 2.742 3.666 2.785 3.198 76 3.204
T-88 GREDDY 34D 2.744 3.74 2.846 3.346 3.242
T-70 2.72 3.85 3.285
T-72 2.84 4.03 3.435
GT42 53 2.925 4.016 2.961 3.228 84 3.4705

HKS T51 SPL 56 2.984 3.986 2.785 3.198 76 3.485
T-76 3.02 4.03 3.525

Sung's note: Evo stock, Compatible in size, Good spool, good power, good racing turbos,
Huge turbos, supra turbos, drag racing only, lag city




Originally posted by Plokivos on Evolution SE


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PostSubject: Re: Turbo Specs   Turbo Specs EmptySun Aug 05, 2007 10:10 am



HKS GT2510 Turbo Specs Hks-gt2510 HKS GT2510 - 300 PS Output

COMPRESSOR:
-Wheel- 63 Trim - 47.7 Inducer / 60.1 Major
-Housing- 60 Inlet / 50 Outlet - 0.60 A/R
TURBINE:
-Wheel- 62 Trim - 53.0 Major / 41.7 Exducer
-Housing- GT25 inlet / Internal GT25 oulet - 0.64 A/R





HKS GT2535 Turbo Specs Hks-gt2535 HKS GT2535 - 340 PS Output

COMPRESSOR:
-Wheel- 56 Trim - 51.6 Inducer / 69.0 Major
-Housing- 60 Inlet / 50 Outlet - 0.60 A/R
TURBINE:
-Wheel- 76 Trim - 53.8 Major / 47.0 Exducer
-Housing- GT25/T3 inlets / Outlet specs:
Internal GT25 outlet; 0.64, 0.86 A/R
Skyline Type; 0.64 A/R

HKS GT2530 Turbo Specs Hks-gt2530 HKS GT2530 - 320 PS Output

COMPRESSOR:
-Wheel- 63 Trim - 47.7 Inducer / 60.1 Major
-Housing- 60 Inlet / 50 Outlet - 0.60 A/R
TURBINE:
-Wheel- 76 Trim - 53.8 Major / 47.0 Exducer
-Housing- GT25/T3 inlets / Internal GT25/Skyline Type oulets - 0.64 A/R



HKS GT2540 Turbo Specs Hks-gt2540 HKS GT2540 - 350 PS Output

COMPRESSOR:
-Wheel- 46 Trim - 51.7 Inducer / 76.2 Major
-Housing- 60 Inlet / 50 Outlet - 0.60 A/R
TURBINE:
-Wheel- 76 Trim - 53.8 Major / 47.0 Exducer
-Housing- T3 inlet / Internal Skyline Type oulet - 0.64 A/R


HKS GT2540R Turbo Specs Hks-gt2510 HKS GT2540R - 360/370 PS Output

COMPRESSOR:
-Wheel- 46 Trim - 51.7 Inducer / 76.2 Major
-Housing- 60 Inlet / 50 Outlet - 0.50 A/R
TURBINE:
-Wheel- 76 Trim - 53.8 Major / 47.0 Exducer
-Housing- GT25 inlet / Internal GT25 oulet - 0.64, 0.86 A/R



HKS GT2835 Pro S Turbo Specs Hks-gt2835 HKS GT2835 Pro S - 420 PS Output

COMPRESSOR:
-Wheel- 56 Trim - 53.1 Inducer / 71.1 Major
-Housing- 100 Inlet / 50 Outlet - 0.50 A/R
TURBINE:
-Wheel- 84 Trim - 56.5 Major / 51.8 Exducer
-Housing- T3 inlet / Outlet spec:
Internal GT-Pro; 0.68, 0.87 A/R





HKS GT2835 Turbo Specs Hks-gt2835-1 HKS GT2835 - 380/400/410 PS Output

COMPRESSOR:
-Wheel- 48/52/56 Trims -
49.3/51.2/53.1 inducers / 71.1 Major
-Housing- 70 Inlet / 50 Outlet - 0.50 A/R
TURBINE:
-Wheel- 84 Trim - 56.5 Major / 51.8 Exducer
-Housing- GT25 inlet / Outlet spec:
Internal GT28; 0.64, 0.86 A/R
External GT30; 0.61, 0.73, 0.87, 1.01, 1.12 A/R



HKS GT2835R Turbo Specs Hks-gt2835r HKS GT2835R - 420 PS Output

COMPRESSOR:
-Wheel- 56 Trim - 53.1 Inducer / 71.1 Major
-Housing- 100 Inlet / 50 Outlet - 0.50 A/R
TURBINE:
-Wheel- 90 Trim - 56.5 Major / 53.6 Exducer
-Housing- GT25 inlet / Outlet spec:
Internal GT28 90 Trim; 0.86 A/R
External GT30; 0.61, 0.73, 0.87, 1.01, 1.12 A/R


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PostSubject: Re: Turbo Specs   Turbo Specs EmptySun Aug 05, 2007 10:12 am

HKS GT3037S Turbo Specs Hks-gt3037s HKS GT3037S - 450/480 PS Output

COMPRESSOR:
-Wheel- 52/56 Trims - 55.0/57.0 Inducers / 76.2 Major
-Housing- 100 Inlet / 50 Outlet - 0.60 A/R
TURBINE:
-Wheel- 84 Trim - 60.0 Major / 55.0 Exducer
-Housing- GT25 inlet / External GT30 outlet; 0.61, 0.73, 0.87, 1.01, 1.12 A/R




HKS GT3240 Turbo Specs Hks-gt3240 HKS GT3240 - 580 PS Output

COMPRESSOR:
-Wheel- 54 Trim - 60.3 Inducer / 82.0 Major
-Housing- 100 Inlet / 60 Outlet - 0.60 A/R
TURBINE:
-Wheel- 84 Trim - 54.0 Major / 58.7 Exducer
-Housing- GT25 inlet / External GT30 outlet - 0.87 A/R


HKS GT3037 Turbo Specs Hks-gt3037 HKS GT3037 - 420/440/470 PS Output

COMPRESSOR:
-Wheel- 48/52/56 Trims - 52.8/55.0/57.0 Inducers / 76.2 Major
-Housing- 70 Inlet / 50 Outlet - 0.60 A/R
TURBINE:
-Wheel- 84 Trim - 60.0 Major / 55.0 Exducer
-Housing- GT25 inlet / External GT30 outlet; 0.61, 0.73, 0.87, 1.01, 1.12 A/R



HKS GT3040 Turbo Specs Hks-gt3040 HKS GT3040 - 500 PS Output

COMPRESSOR:
-Wheel- 50 Trim - 58.0 Inducer / 82.0 Major
-Housing- 100 Inlet / 60 Outlet - 0.60 A/R
TURBINE:
-Wheel- 84 Trim - 60.0 Major / 55.0 Exducer
-Housing- GT25 inlet / External GT30 outlet; 0.61, 0.73, 0.87, 1.01, 1.12 A/R


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PostSubject: Re: Turbo Specs   Turbo Specs EmptySun Aug 05, 2007 10:12 am

T51R SPL Turbo Turbo Specs Hks-t51r-spl HKS T51R SPL - 1000 PS Output
COMPRESSOR:
-Wheel- 56 Trim - 76.5 Inducer/ 102.2 Major
-Housing- 100 Inlet / 80 Outlet
TURBINE:
-Wheel- 76 Trim - 82.0 Major / 71.4 Exducer
-Housing- V-Band inlet / V-Band 115.5 mm outlet - 1.00 A/R



HKS TO4Z Turbo Specs Hks-tO4z HKS TO4Z Turbo


HKS TO4S Turbo Specs Hks-tO4s HKS T04S - 550 PS Output

COMPRESSOR:
-Wheel- 60 Trim - 59.0 Inducer / 76.2 Major
-Housing- 100 Inlet / 60 Outlet - 0.70 A/R
TURBINE:
-Wheel- 76 Trim - 74.2 Major / 64.7 Exducer
-Housing- T04 inlet / 65.75 outlet - 0.84, 1.00 A/R



T51R KAI turbo Turbo Specs Hks-t51r-kai HKS T51R KAI - 800 PS Output

COMPRESSOR:
-Wheel- 56 Trim - 70.3 Inducer / 94.0 Major
-Housing- 100 Inlet / 80 Outlet
TURBINE:
-Wheel- 76 Trim - 82.0 Major / 71.4 Exducer
-Housing- V-Band inlet / V-Band 115.5 mm outlet - 1.00 A/R


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PostSubject: Re: Turbo Specs   Turbo Specs EmptySun Aug 05, 2007 10:13 am

More info.


See the wheel sizes
http://www.mjmturbos.com/images/9g12...gBIG18g20g.jpg

Td-05 18g
http://www.mjmturbos.com/images/TD0518G.jpg.jpg


Modified Td05
http://www.mjmturbos.com/images/16G20GProcess.jpg


Td05 20g
http://www.mjmturbos.com/images/EVO20G.jpg

Some turbine for Mazda and Fords
http://www.mjmturbos.com/images/ihi-t3.jpg

Td05-16g Small
http://www.mjmturbos.com/images/16gREGULAR.jpg

Td05-16g Big
http://www.mjmturbos.com/images/16gBIG7CM.jpg

Td-05 + Garrett
http://www.mjmturbos.com/images/TD05GARRETT.jpg
http://www.mjmturbos.com/images/Td05...04e%20copy.jpg


Td05 and td06 comparison
http://www.mjmturbos.com/images/Td06-Td05.jpg


A few TD turbines
http://www.mjmturbos.com/images/MULTIMITSU.jpg

Are you sure no turbine for 1200hp ?
http://www.mjmturbos.com/images/THEBLACK.jpg

1200hp where got enough lar , 3800hp ?
http://www.mjmturbos.com/images/RUSSIANRED.jpg

HKS Turbo Specs
http://cherrypicker.tripod.com/siteb.../hksturbos.jpg

HKS Turbo Displacements
http://cherrypicker.tripod.com/siteb.../gt-turbos.jpg

Turbo Short Info

Mitsu turbos:

Mitsubishi uses TD04, TD05, TD06, TD07, TD08...to designates turbo housing.

For example, TD05H-16G 7cm^2 is a turbo with,

*
TD05 turbine housing with 'H' style turbine wheel. There are S, SH, H... style of turbine wheel/housing.
*
16G compressor wheel. 16 is the size of the wheel, 1.83 inducer, 2.37 exducer. There is no direct correlation between MHI designation and actual physical size of the compressor wheel. G is the style of wheel (uneven height of blades). C, B, T style wheel's blades have the same height. Blades are equally spaced, but the number and pitch of the blades vary between models.
*
8cm^2 is referring to exhaust discharge area in the turbine housing. More specifically, it is the smallest cross-sectional area of the scroll, turbine housing. Very similar to Garrett turbo's A/R. The smaller number means faster spool-up but more back pressure at higher rpm. Bigger number means longer spool up but less back pressure, thus more top end power.

Greddy modifies Mitsu turbos. I don't have any published specs for Greddy turbos and i have not taken any time to measure them. It's possible some of turbos have different specs from Mistubishi. Also, both Greddy TD05 and TD06 use 3 bolt turbine flange where as Mistubishi's uses 4 bolt flanges.

Bisides the TD04, TD05, TD06, TD07 and TD08 turbos, Greddy also makes hybrid turbo, T67 is TD07 compressor and TD06 turbine, same turbo as TD06SH-25G. T78 is the compressor of TD08 and turbine of TD07, T88 uses compressor and turbine from TD08.


Garrett Turbos:


Garrett basically has two lines of turbos. The ancient, inefficient T series turbos and the new, modern, ball bearing GT series turbos.

*
T family has T22, T25, T3, T350, To4B, To4E, TS04, To4R ...These are 50 year old, WWII generation turbos.
*
The newer line of GT turbos are ball bearing on journal and thrust bearing. The turbine and compressor wheels are improvely aerodynamically to flow more air. GT20, GT22, GT25, GT30, GT35, GT40, GT45, GT50... GT turbos produce slightly more hp then older T series turbos with the same number designation. A GT Garrett turbine wheel wil flow more air than similar sized Greddy turbine wheel. Thus GT turbos are able to boost higher and flow more.

Turbonetics and many domestic makers turbos based on T series turbos
. A T3/To4E 60 T .63A/R is a hybrid turbo with T3 turbine, To4E compressor, 60 Trim compressor wheel and .63 A/R turbine housing.

Wheel "trim" refers to the squared ratio of the smaller diameter divided by the larger diameter times 100. Generally, the larger the trim number the more flow the wheel has.

For compressor wheels , larger trim tends to mean slightly lower efficiency.

For "families" of turbine wheels (those with the same inducer diameter), larger trim usually means better flow with less backpressure but longer spool time.

A/R is a ratio of the exhaust discharge area vs the distance from the center of turbine wheel to the center of the cross sectional area. Smaller A/R housing has faster spool up. Bigger A/R housing has less back pressure, more flow for the top end.

The so called "T-series': T60, T61, T66, T70, T72, T76... are T4 turbos as well. The number means the compressor inducer size. ie: T76 means it has 76mm compressor inducer.

HKS uses Garrett turbos. HKS GT series turbos use Garrett GT's turbine with GT's compressor.

For example, HKS GT 2835 is GT28 turbine with GT35 52 trim compressor.

The newer line of Garrett GT-R turbos are hybrid turbos. For example, GT30R is a hybrid of GT30 turbine mated to 56 trim GT37 compressor.



Twin Entry Turbines
http://www.turbodriven.com/en/turbof...turbine_32.jpg

Water Cooled Turbine Housing
http://www.turbodriven.com/en/turbof...turbine_27.jpg

How turbo works
http://www.turbocalculator.com/turbo-parts.gif

The Turbo Build
http://www.turbodriven.com/en/turbof...erklaerung.jpg

Bearing Turbo Build
http://www.turbodriven.com/en/turbof...turbine_16.jpg

TD05 Compressor Map
http://cherrypicker.tripod.com/image...H-16G-flow.jpg

TD06 Compressor Map
http://cherrypicker.tripod.com/siteb...6h-20g-cfm.gif


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Flow Rates @ 15psi:

TDO4-9B-6CM2 265 CFM
TDO5-12A-8CM2 320 CFM
TDO4-13G-5CM2 360 CFM
TEO4-13C-6CM2 360 CFM
TDO4L-13G-6CM2 360 CFM
TDO4L-15C-8.5CM2 390 CFM
TDO5H-14B-6CM2 405 CFM
TDO5H-14G-8CM2 465 CFM
TDO5H-16G-7CM2 505 CFM
TDO5H-16G-10CM2 505 CFM
TDO6-17C-8CM2 550 CFM
TDO6H-20G-14CM2 650 CFM
TDO7S-25G-17CM2 850 CFM
TFO8L-30V-18CM2 1200 CFM

Max Output:
TD05-14B (stock 1st gen) 275-300hp @ 21 psi
TD05-16G (small) 345-365hp @ 22 psi
TD06-16G (large) 365-385hp @ 22 psi
TD06-20G 430-450hp @ 22 psi
T25 (stock 2nd gen) 235-250hp @ ?? psi
T3 (super 60)/T2.5 hybrid 265-280hp @ ?? psi
T3 (super 60)/T2.8 hybrid 270-320hp @ ?? psi

Evolution 1

Turbo = TDO5H–16G-7
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 7
Exhaust turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 60mm wide


Evolution 2

Turbo = TDO5H–16G-7
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 7
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 60mm wide


Evolution 3

Turbo = TD05H–16G6-7
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 7
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide


Evolution 4

Turbo = TD05HR-16G6-9T
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 9
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide


Evolution 5

Turbo = TD05HR-16G6-10.5T (GSR)
TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (RS)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy), Titanium alloy (RS)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide


Evolution 6

Turbo = TD05HR-16G6-10.5T (GSR)
TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (RS/rs2)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5
Turbine = GSR - Inconel (steel alloy), Titanium alloy (RS/RS2)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide


Evolution 6 : Tommi Makinen Edition
Turbo = TD05RA-15GK2-10.5T (GSR)
TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (RS/rs2)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5
Turbine = Titanium alloy for both RS/RS2/GSR!
Compressor = Aluminium, 65mm (gsr) - 68mm(rs) wide


Evolution 7

Turbo = TD05HR-16G6-9.8T (GSR)
TD05HRA-16G6-9.8T (RS/RS2)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 9.8
Turbine = GSR - Inconel (steel alloy), RS/Rs2=Titanium alloy
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide


Evolution 7 GTA

Turbo = TD05-15GK2-9.0T
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 9.0
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 65mm wide


Evolution 8
Turbo = TD05HR-16G6-9.8T (GSR / USDM E
TD05HRA-16G6-9.8T (RS/RS2)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 9.8
Turbine = USDM EVO 8 & JDM GSR =Inconel (steel alloy),
RS/Rs2=Titanium alloy.
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide


All Evo 4-8 Turbos are twin scroll designs meaning that the engines exhaust is divided into two channels (see first pic). As the engine exhausts in pulses.. its supposed to result in quicker spooling. From the Evo 4 onwards, the Turbo spins in the opposite direction, i.e. Anticlockwise (hence the R in the turbo name). The Titanium Alumnide alloy used in the RS/RS2 and some GSRS (factory option) has less inertia and thus spins up around 500 rpm sooner. These Titanium turbos can be indentified by the A in their name.


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Mitsubishi:

16g = 34lb/min
Big 16g = 36lb/min
EVO III Big 16g = 36-40lb/min (DSMLink has logged several 40+) NEW!!!
20g = 44lb/min

Forced Performance:

Big28 = 37lb/min
FP2544 = 44lb/min (56trim/ dual BB)
Sleeper 16g = 44lb/min
Green = 49lb/min (50 trim)
FP49 = 49lb/min (50 trim, T31 turbine)
Red = 60lb/min (60-1 trim, dyno 520whp)
FP3052 = 52lb/min (dyno 504whp)
FP3065 = 65lb/min (dyno 585whp)
FP58 = 65lb/min (GT40 56 trim comp. wheel, .49A/R PTE, T350 turbine)

AGP:

T28 = 36lb/min (TB03 compressor)
RS43 = 43lb/min (46 trim T04E)
SS44 = 44lb/min (It is a 44lb/min but not a 48trim. It is not a GT30 at all. It’s special, topsecret, Kevin)
RS49 = 49lb/min (50 trim T04E)
RS60 = 60lb/min (60-1 trim) (claimed 534whp)
RS65 = 65lb/min (56 trim GT40)

DSM Performance/Extreme Turbo:

ETA12 = 36lb/min (S-trim, ETA comp housing)
ETA32 = 48lb/min (50 trim, ETA comp housing)
ETE32 = 48lb/min (50 trim, T04E comp housing)
ETE42 = 50lb/min (60 trim, TO4E)
ETE52 = 55lb/min (60-1 trim, TO4E)
ETE53 = 55lb/min (60-1 trim, T04E) NEW!!!
ETE73 = 72lb/min (T66 comp wheel, T04E) NEW!!!

Buschur Racing:
BR-BIG28 = (claimed 350hp) NEW!!!
BR20G = (TD05/6 hybrid, first in 10s)
BR475 = (No info as of yet) NEW!!!
BR57 = (Garrett T3/T4)
BR500 = (claimed 504whp)
BR580 = (claimed 575whp)
BR675 = (No info as of yet) NEW!!!

Slowboy Racing:
SBR-M50 = 48lb/min (50 trim)
SBR-M60 = 60lb/min (60-1 trim)
SBR-GT10 = 44lb/min (48 trim, dual BB)
SBR-GT11 = (No info as of yet) NEW!!!
SBR-GT12 = 55lb/min (56 trim, dual BB)
SBR-GT13 = 60lb/min (60 trim, dual BB)
SBR-GT14 = 65lb/min (56 trim, dual BB)
SBR-GT35R = (No info as of yet) NEW!!!
SBR-GT30R = (No info as of yet) NEW!!!
SBR-G50 = 48lb/min (50 trim, T04E) NEW!!!
SBR-G57 = 55lb/min (56 trim, T04E) NEW!!!
SBR-60-1 = 60lb/min (60-1 trim, T04E) NEW!!!

Frankenstein Turbos:

Frank 1 = 46 trim, 20*clipped TD05H turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 2 = 46 trim, unclipped TD06 turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 50 = 50 trim, unclipped TD06 turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 3 = 54 trim, unclipped TD06 turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 57 = 57 trim, unclipped TD06 turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 4 = 60 trim, 10*clipped TD06 turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 5 = 60 trim, unclipped TD06H turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 6 = 60 trim, unclipped TD06H turbine, TD05H 8cm2 housing
Frank 7 = 60 trim, 10*clipped TD06H turbine, TD05H 8cm2 housing

GT30 (ball bearing) turbos:

48 trim = 44lbs/min
52 trim = 50lbs/min
56 trim = 55lbs/min
60 trim = 60lbs/min
gt35 trim = 65lbs/min

Garrett:
T-28 = 34lb/min (350BHP)
50 trim = 47lb/min
57 trim = 49lb/min
60-1 = 65lb/min

The following is from Turbonetics Catalog:

On TO4E Compressor housings:
50-trim = 47lbs/min
54-trim = 45lbs/min
57-trim = 49lbs/min
60-trim = 50lbs/min
T-100 = 180lbs/min

TO4B compressor housing:
60-1 = 65lbs/min
62-1 = 70lbs/min

Source:jinkl


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PostSubject: Re: Turbo Specs   Turbo Specs EmptySun Aug 05, 2007 10:13 am

Compiled by Hotrod on NASIOC:

Last updated 12/28/02
Turbo Type ----------- Approx flow @ pressure
Stock Turbo ---------- 360 CFM at 14.7 PSI
IHI VF 25 ------------- 370 CFM at 14.7 PSI <--- estimated
IHI VF 26 ------------- 390 CFM at 14.7 PSI <--- estimated
T3 60 trim ----------- 400 CFM at 14.7 PSI
IHI VF 27 ------------- 400 CFM at 14.7 PSI <--- estimated
IHI VF 24/28/29 ----- 410 CFM at 14.7 PSI <--- estimated

========= 422 CFM max flow for a 2 Liter at .85 VE pressure ratio 2.0 (14.7 PSI) 7000 RPM =======

IHI VF 23 ------------- 423 CFM at 14.7 PSI
FP STOCK HYBRID -- 430 CFM at 14.7 PSI <--- derived from HP potential listed on web
IHI VF-30 ------------- 435 CFM at 14.7 PSI <--- estimated
SR 30 ----------------- 435 CFM at 14.7 PSI
IHI VF-22 ------------ 440 CFM at 14.7 PSI <--- refigured
T04E 40 trim -------- 460 CFM at 14.7 PSI

========= 464 CFM max flow for a 2.2 Liter at .85 VE pressure ratio 2.0 (14.7 PSI) 7000 rpm =======

PE1818 -------------- 490 CFM at 14.7 PSI <--- estimated from max flow numbers
Small 16G ------------ 505 CFM at 14.7 PSI
ION Spec (stg 0) --- 525 CFM at 14.7 PSI <--- per vendor post 12-27-2002

========= 526 CFM max flow for a 2.5 Liter at .85 VE pressure ratio 2.0 (14.7 PSI) 7000 RPM =======

Large 16G ----------- 550 CFM at 14.7 PSI
SR 40 ----------------- 595 CFM at 14.7 PSI
18G ------------------- 600 CFM at 14.7 PSI
PE 1820 -------------- 630 CFM at 14.7 PSI <--- estimated from max flow numbers
20G ------------------ 650 CFM at 14.7 PSI
SR 50 ---------------- 710 CFM at 14.7 PSI
GT-30 ---------------- 725 CFM at 14.7 PSI
60-1 ----------------- 725 CFM at 14.7 PSI
GT-35R -------------- 820 CFM at 14.7 PSI
T72 ------------------ 920 CFM at 14.7 PSI <--- Note you would have to spin a 2.0 L engine at about 14,000 rpm to flow this much air.

IHI VF 25 ----------- 395 CFM at 18 PSI <--- estimated
IHI VF 26 ----------- 400 CFM at 18 PSI <--- estimated
T3 60 trim ---------- 410 CFM at 20 PSI
IHI VF 27 ----------- 420 CFM at 18 PSI <--- estimated
IHI VF 24/28/29 -- 425 CFM at 18 PSI <--- estimated
IHI VF 23 ----------- 430 CFM at 18 PSI <--- estimated
IHI VF-30 ----------- 460 CFM at 18.0 PSI <--- estimate based on trap speeds of cars running this turbo
AVO 320HP -------- 465 CFM at 17.5 PSI
T04E 40 trim ------ 465 CFM at 22 PSI
FP STOCK HYBRID- 490 CFM at 18.0 PSI
IHI VF-22 ---------- 490 CFM at 18.0 PSI <--- refigured
SR 30 --------------- 490 CFM at 22 PSI
Small 16G ---------- 490 CFM at 22 PSI
ION Spec (stg 0) - 500 CFM at 19 PSI <--- per vendor post 12-27-2002
PE1818 ------------ 515 CFM at 22 PSI <--- estimated from manufactures rated max power
Large 16G --------- 520 CFM at 22 PSI <--- upgraded flow some on review of compressor map

========= 526 CFM max flow for a 2 Liter at .85 VE pressure ratio 2.5 (22 PSI) 7000 rpm =======

========= 578 CFM max flow for a 2.2 Liter at .85 VE pressure ratio 2.5 (22 PSI) 7000 rpm =======

HKS GT2835 ------- 580 CFM at 22 PSI 400 hp
MRT 400 ------------ 580 CFM at 16 PSI
AVO 400HP -------- 580 CFM at 17.5 PSI
MRT 450 ------------ 650 CFM at 19 PSI
AVO 450HP -------- 650 CFM at 20.0 PSI
SR 40 ---------------- 650 CFM at 22 PSI

========= 658 CFM max flow for a 2.5 Liter at .85 VE pressure ratio 2.5 (22 PSI) 7000 rpm =======

HKS GT3037 ------ 670 CFM at 22 PSI 460 hp
PE 1820 ----------- 680 CFM at 22 PSI <--- estimated from manufactures rated max power
20G ---------------- 695 CFM at 20.0 PSI
HKS GT3040 ----- 710 CFM at 22 PSI 490 hp
AVO 500HP ------ 770 CFM at 22 PSI
SR 50 ------------- 770 CFM at 22 PSI
GT-30 ------------- 790 CFM at 22 PSI
60-1 --------------- 800 CFM at 22 PSI
HKS GT3240 ----- 830 CFM at 22 PSI 570 hp
GT-35R ----------- 880 CFM at 22 PSI
T72 --------------- 1000 CFM at 22 PSI <--- note you would have to run a 2.0 L engine at >40 PSI boost to flow this much air

Conversions used where I had control over conversion factors:
1 HP approx equals 1.45 CFM

1 CFM approx equals 0.0745 lb of air/min

0.108 Lb/min approx equals 1 hp

1 Meter cubed/sec = 35.314 CFS = 2118.867 CFM

1 KG/sec = 132 lbs/min approx equals 1771.812 CFM

power coversions:
1 PS = 0.9859 HP = 75 Kgf m/sec
1.3405 HP = 1 KW
1 HP = 746 watts
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PostSubject: Re: Turbo Specs   Turbo Specs EmptySun Aug 05, 2007 10:14 am

First go to
My CFM calculator

Enter the peak boost you plan to run and the rpm in which you plan to reach it (or leave blank for simplification) and the displacement in CU (there is a check box to change it to CC units).

This will give you two numbers for each rpm point: Pressure ratio (PR) and air flow (in cfm) for your motor.

All you have to do is look at any compressor map and plot PR vs air flow (in cfm or lb/hr). You want your plot to stay withing the most ideal part of that compressor map.

The map has rings. The rings represent the compressor effeciency at a given point. There is also a line show compressor rpm. The higher the compressor rpm, the hotter the air will be and the harder the turbo will be working (read: longivity). If your plot gets to the left of the chart (off of the chart) the compressor will surge. This usually happens when you try to put a turbo that is too big for a car.

Now the links!

This is what you should read first. It pretty much teaches you everthing you need to know about turbos and maps:
http://www.badbricks.com/main_files/faqs/turbo_size.htm (link not currently working)

here is a site that plots it for you on top of various charts:
http://www.bsmotor.com/turbo/kalkuler.html

on the sites that don't plot it for you, or if you find a chart elsewhere, you just print out the compressor map and draw it in with ink.

turbonetics compressor maps:
http://www.turboneticsinc.com/comp_maps/fig1.html

garret compressor maps:
http://www.bsmotor.com/turbo/tabell.html

Mitsubishi turbos upgrade guide and well as some GOOD tech info http://www.3si.org/member-home/jluci...turboguide.htm (link not currently working)


After reading all of this and understanding it, you'll pretty much know all you need to about turbos (beside actually getting hands-on experience).

Source : clubwrx


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PostSubject: Re: Turbo Specs   Turbo Specs EmptySun Aug 05, 2007 10:14 am

Convert CFM to lb/min: Mass Flow(lb/min)
= 0.0756 x Volume Flow(cfm)


_--------------------------------------------------------------

pOut/pIn = (Pm + Pic + Patm) / (Pit + Patm)

Where Pm = Relative boost pressure @manifold.
Pic = Pressure drop through IC.
Patm = Absolute ambient barometric pressure.
Pit = Pressure drop@inlet.

Units of measurement are PSI.

So let's say there is a 3psi drop through the stock intercooler (not outlandish for a small tube-fin IC), plus a 0.5psi drop at the turbocharger inlet (guesstimate). Sea-level barometric pressure is 14.7psi

Given these conditions, a PR of 2.0 would figure as follows:

2.0 = (Pm + 3 + 14.7) / (-0.5 + 14.7)

Solving for Pm:

Pm = 2 . 14.2 - 17.7

Pm = 10.7 psi
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PostSubject: Re: Turbo Specs   Turbo Specs EmptySun Aug 05, 2007 10:28 am

Whew.......that took forever to reformat. All the sizes were different and some colors won't show up here.


Anyways, I figured that since I plan on doing a turbo upgrade in the near future, this should be accessible. Hopefully we all can benefit from Sung's research.
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nice~

good job Trae good job

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PostSubject: Re: Turbo Specs   Turbo Specs EmptyTue Aug 07, 2007 7:12 am

Why thank you. Thank you very much.
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PostSubject: Re: Turbo Specs   Turbo Specs EmptyFri Aug 17, 2007 5:01 pm

Here guys read the basics of turbocharger!

Q: What is a CHRA?
A: The CHRA is the center housing and rotating assembly, it houses the compressor wheel, turbine wheel, turbine shaft, bearing system and other small parts.

Q: So my compressor housing says .60 on it, does that mean i have a 60trim?
A: No, thats not true, the .60ar refers to the aspect ratio, but most know it as the size of the compressor HOUSING not the compressor wheel. you can put a 50trim, 57trim, 60trim, 60-1 and a wide range of others in a .60ar compressor housing. Just because your compressor housing says .60 doesnt mean that its a 60trim.

Q: What are the most common T4E compressor wheels?
A:
-40trim (T4E compressor wheel)
-46trim (T4E compressor wheel)
-50trim (T4E compressor wheel and a SRT favorite)
-54trim (T4E compressor wheel)
-57trim (T4E compressor wheel one of my favorites)
-60trim (T4E compressor wheel)
-60-1

Q: What are the most common compressor housings?
A:
-50ar
-60ar (T4E usually has a 3" inlet)
-70ar (T4S usually has a 4" inlet)

Q: What does T3/T4E really mean?
A: Well a T3/T4 is a hybrid of a T3 hot side and a T4 cold side. The T4E refers to a family of T4E compressor wheels that is paired with the T3 thot side (turbine side).

Q: What turbine housings are available on a T3/T4E?
A: Well there are 5 basic turbine housings, available, they are:

.36ar (very uncommon and usually too small)
.48ar
.63ar
.82ar
1.06ar

Q: What does stage 3 mean?
A: Well stage 3 is a turbonetics term for a specific turbine wheel, Garrett has a term for basically the same turbine wheel, but they call it "T31"

There are 3 basic turbonetics turbine wheels: Stage 1, 2, 3, and 5

The higher the stage wheel, the slower the turbo usually spools, for example, if you have a 50trim compressor wheel, the stage 1 turbine wheel will spool faster than the the stage 5 turbine wheel, but it will not flow as much turbine gases as a stage 5 at high RPMs.

Garrett turbos use different terminology, the stage 3 is referred to a T31 with a 76trim, the stage 5 is referred to a T350, most guys use stage 3's or T31 turbine wheels.

Q: A 60-1 says it has the same trim as a 60trim, whats the deal with that?
A: Well they do have the same trim, but the 60-1 has an additional compressor blade (7 compressor blades) instead of the standard 60trims (6 compressor blades)

Q: How do i calculate compressor wheel trim?
A: Trim is calculated by doing the following equation:

Inducer Squared, divided by Exducer Squared, then multiply the equation by 100.

IE:
If your inducer is 80mm then:
80^2 = 6400

If your exducer is 100mm then:
100^2 = 10000

6400/10000 = .64 x 100 = 64trim




source= Tim aka TKMotorsports
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