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bomjoon
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TouringBubble

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PostSubject: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyFri Mar 07, 2008 1:10 pm

I got this question today ... someone wants to run 11's by next weekend. He currently runs in the low 12.3s in full street trim ... spare tire and all. His current mods are ...

Cone intake
Silicon intake pipe
TXS Boost Controller
LICP
WG spring mod
SS Turbo outles w/ external dump
3" TBE

My suggestions to go faster were ...

Switch to ECU boost control w/ 3-post solenoid
Forge WG actuator
Engine mounts
2-piece rotors
Pull the seats
Pull the spare tire/jack/tools
Remove the wing
Drag alignment (0 toe and low camber)

He's already planning for:
FMIC
UICP
Mini Battery

I think it would be capable of a conservative 11.8 on toluene with all this done and a mid 11.9 at the worst on pump gas. What do you guys think?
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyFri Mar 07, 2008 2:30 pm

get some gastric bypass surgury and lose 30~40 pounds. or liposuction.

less weight = less 1/4mi. time.

Smile


meth/alky/ injection? more boost?
slicks?
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyFri Mar 07, 2008 2:42 pm

Pulling the interior and spare should net about a 110 lb loss I'd think. Thats with rear and passenger seats gone. The Forge actuator and the Perrin solenoid should let him hold about 22 psi at redline which is a bit better than he is currently. You can't beat an active solenoid for boost control.
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyFri Mar 07, 2008 3:25 pm

let me drive it i'll get him into 9's lol

9's in 500ft. lol
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyFri Mar 07, 2008 3:30 pm

I thought about adding "let me drive" to the list ... he's not a bad driver though. He's just a little slow shifting. Last time he was really tired though so that may have been the cause.
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyFri Mar 07, 2008 3:47 pm

1) ditch the extra junk.
2) only have 1/4 of race fuel.
3) bump boost to 24-25
4) Tubular manifold
5) 272 cams

He will be in the high 11's tehn Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyFri Mar 07, 2008 3:55 pm

He's already running 25 psi, but it's tapering to about 20. A bit of power can be made there. Less fuel is good. Mani and cams are good ... I didn't mention cams simply due to install time and cost.
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyFri Mar 07, 2008 3:58 pm

he needs seqential tranny.
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyFri Mar 07, 2008 6:03 pm

What is his 60' times and what type of tyres? I.E. is he getting excessive wheel spin?
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyFri Mar 07, 2008 6:09 pm

mid 1.7s generally ... he'll pull out a 1.6x every once in a while. Not super consistent, but he doesn't completely screw the launch.
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyFri Mar 07, 2008 6:15 pm

From the mods he is making low to mid 300's (correct me if I wrong). This should allow him into the 11's if he became more consistant on his launch.

I have not dragged my Evo but spent years doing it on bikes and I learned if i can get consistent 60' times my ET's came down, even if the times were the same as I was running before, the consistancy helped my times on the top.
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyFri Mar 07, 2008 7:42 pm

A twin disk Smile

Cams arent but a thing. It is too difficult to do. I say that and I cant tune my own car Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyFri Mar 07, 2008 7:43 pm

Oh if he has a evo 8, I have a forge wastegate actuator. Brand freaking new. A good offer and it is gone
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race gas.
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyFri Mar 07, 2008 7:55 pm

Sung, he usually runs on Toluene at about a 95 octane mix. We'll probably bump that up to around 97 oct for the race.

Will, he's got a 9. I did remember you had that but realized it wouldn't work.

He's putting down about 335 I'd guess ... it's got 11's in it, but the heat and humidity here doesn't want to let it happen. He traps about 112 I think, which is good for 12.05 I'd guess with driving on point. We've got to overcome the driving with horsepower in this instance ...
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyFri Mar 07, 2008 8:47 pm

Giggle Gas, either to cool the IC or a dry shot to do it on a budget.
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptySat Mar 08, 2008 11:32 am

definitely reduce weight
hold boost till redline
needs a great launch


you can reduce more weight by going with some coilovers, the stock suspension is heavier than megans
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyWed Mar 12, 2008 4:25 pm

VP import or burn!

Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyWed Mar 12, 2008 4:27 pm

He mentioned N2O today ... he REALLY wants to go fast ...
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyWed Mar 12, 2008 6:23 pm

spray N20 into the preturbo pipe. Turbos love that with a passion
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyWed Mar 12, 2008 6:34 pm

capn morgan wit coke on the intake. just pour it.

drive responsively. lol
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PostSubject: Re: Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3?   Cut ~3/10 off of a 12.3? EmptyWed Mar 12, 2008 11:05 pm

bomjoon wrote:
capn morgan wit coke on the intake. just pour it.

drive responsively. lol

To steal a quote from The Green Mile, "I think the boys cheese has slid offa his cracker"!
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